Having an all natural VBAC was one of my prouder moments that I was actually able to accomplish that. And what I did was hire a phenomenal doula. She was brilliant. She was a midwife and she was also an acupuncturist. So she helped calm me, helped me have a plan, helped me understand the normalcy of pregnancy and of childbirth. And it created a beautiful experience for my husband and myself both. And in anticipating that I hired a doula. I read these phenomenal books by an author named Ina May Gaskins who I guess is the doula of all doulas. And she talks about how normal it is. There are millions who have done this. They do it everyday. It is normal. And then the other essential thing I did was visualize. This doula helped me walk through exactly what I wanted to happen in my childbirth, and it was almost exactly what happened. And it was like my crowning achievement. And it also healed me from my first birth, which was an emergency c section. It was such a healing process for me, and I am really proud of that.